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  • 05/07/2010 17:56  Vorflynn said:  good to see you back Aircool
  • 05/07/2010 23:21  Thunderfoot said:  willau, felgrim, not sure if i'll make chains tonight, the blower in my car's cabin has stopped and i want to try and get it fixed
  • 06/07/2010 03:33  Willau said:  Well best of luck on the fix. We took the opportunity to go belt some gnolls and ogres in gianthold so no harm done..;)
  • 06/07/2010 07:37  Dalkarn said:  yup n i saved the lot of em as usual,it's bleedin ard werk bein a great hero like me i kin tell ya... :)
  • 06/07/2010 13:42  Thunderfoot said:  aye, these bigjobs don't know how good they got it wiv us shenanigans running things behind the scenes!
  • 06/07/2010 13:43  Thunderfoot said:  we got half way through the diagnostics yesterday, ready for a fresh assault this evening. trust the blower to pack up in summer!
  • 06/07/2010 21:46  Thunderfoot said:  renown bonus for smaller guilds is on the official knwon issue list, so they do want us to get a bonus! just hope they get it fixed soon!
  • 08/07/2010 18:42  Laz said:  Happy birthday Arun!
  • 08/07/2010 21:16  Willau said:  (well it openned for me today Laz so no clue what problem was last night)
  • 09/07/2010 03:31  Laz said:  Indeed, it could of been a number of things. Did anyone else have problems last night?
  • 10/07/2010 15:21  Delun said:  I was having the problem that the site was not accessible for a day or so
  • 10/07/2010 15:21  Delun said:  Seemed the domain was found but the page did not load
  • 11/07/2010 04:43  paulb said:  Me too, though I could access the old site if that explains anything
  • 11/07/2010 04:43  paulb said:  Happy Birthday Bainwen
  • 11/07/2010 15:05  Vorflynn said:  happy birthday for yesterday Bainwen
  • 11/07/2010 22:57  bainwen said:  Fankoo fankoo :)
  • 11/07/2010 23:55  Laz said:  Happy birthday guys.
  • 16/07/2010 16:21  Eph said:  Happy B-Day Bain (a bit late i see) :)
  • 17/07/2010 19:05  Vorflynn said:  so very very quiet...
  • 19/07/2010 00:29  Laz said:  Aye
  • 19/07/2010 01:57  kingdelete said:  EVENING, was that loud enough for ya ^_^
  • 19/07/2010 01:57  kingdelete said:  EVENING, was that loud enough for ya ^_^
  • 19/07/2010 19:42  Thunderfoot said:  thats because the shout box is now on a sliding scale tariff based on volume. you've jsut spent 200 gold kingdelete, please make payment to my self or dalk.
  • 19/07/2010 19:43  Thunderfoot said:  laz and vory, 50gp each please. here ends the free of charge public service announcement
  • 19/07/2010 23:29  Willau said:  Thunder and Dalk. My office please? I wish to discuss how you are going to pay your 300gp fines for extortion on Guild members...
  • 19/07/2010 23:30  Willau said:  Well done Legends on last night. A brave attempt but that dragon had her aim in with the fireballs
  • 20/07/2010 03:24  kingdelete said:  oo a dragon, i like dragons :)
  • 20/07/2010 18:09  Thunderfoot said:  KEEPER IS MOVING TO AMERICA! free transfers + 5K TP's!
  • 20/07/2010 18:27  Vorflynn said:  you also have to pay me a small guild fee of (your character level)x100gp for the transfer
  • 20/07/2010 18:30  Vorflynn said:  half the fees collected will go to Thunder and Dalk to help them pay the extortion fine
  • 20/07/2010 21:22  Balor said:  I made a mess
  • 20/07/2010 23:27  Thunderfoot said:  #looks vorf up and down# yeah, an there is also a small fee of 10gp for each item transfered, half the fee will go to vorf's extortion fine
  • 21/07/2010 03:01  tdk dvdrw said:  did anyone else get the email from ddo EU ???
  • 21/07/2010 05:08  Laz said:  Aye indeed I did. Looks like we'll soon be able to transfer our characters
  • 22/07/2010 03:01  Willau said:  I didn't.. I guess they don't want me....
  • 22/07/2010 16:41  Caelara said:  hi everyone ... hope you are all well!!
  • 22/07/2010 18:52  Vorflynn said:  Willau you can have your e-mail, you just have to pay Thunderfoot 110gp
  • 22/07/2010 21:31  Willau said:  I think its time to make this extortion racket support the guild. A 120% tax on all funds levied by the Shenanigans should cover it.
  • 22/07/2010 21:32  Willau said:  Hi Caelara! (Someone glue her to a chair please and stop her from leaving?)
  • 22/07/2010 22:19  Thunderfoot said:  very well, vorf will be taking control of our opperations for now, he seems to have a tallent for it
  • 22/07/2010 22:28  Thunderfoot said:  VAT (Vorf Added Tax) may apply to some services and comodities. the shenanigans will be aiding in the running of VAT
  • 26/07/2010 23:51  Willau said:  DDO:U closed till 9.30pm uk. Apparently there is an issue with Renown..I am considering sending Turbine a visit from a halfling hit squad.
  • 27/07/2010 01:06  Vorflynn said:  Unfortunately I shut down the servers until Turbine paid their arrears of Vorf Added Tax. they paid their 16 platinum and the servers will be up again soon
  • 27/07/2010 01:08  Vorflynn said:  the 16 platinum will go towards a celebration of the Shenanigans'. It should be the party to end all parties
  • 29/07/2010 00:20  Vorflynn said:  FG2 server is up and running
  • 29/07/2010 03:07  Vorflynn said:  sent you the PM with the link little foot.
  • 29/07/2010 03:08  little foot said:  thanks
  • 29/07/2010 13:08  Arun said:  We've been advertised/spam'd !
  • 29/07/2010 15:55  Vorflynn said:  We have?
  • 29/07/2010 17:02  Arun said:  three threads have some new recruit sticking up advertising posts
  • 29/07/2010 21:04  Willau said:  Looks like they have been nicely vorpalled
  • 29/07/2010 21:48  Fade said:  I knobbled them this morning.
  • 30/07/2010 13:06  Willau said:  Has anyone in Legends created the character Nini and used them in DDO:Unlimited? If so please get in touch with me urgently
  • 05/08/2010 16:35  Dorsetshire said:  Niwa, Brun and Goldry are away on holiday for the next two weeks. Have fun without us!
  • 07/08/2010 00:59  tdk dvdrw said:  bored bored bored
  • 07/08/2010 16:34  Willau said:  I have temple steps you can clean Td? Never have an end of those.. plenty to do.....
  • 07/08/2010 17:19  Thunderfoot said:  looks likes its gonna be a special guild meet tomorrow, we're on course to get our air ship. guild meet will be on its maiden voyage!
  • 08/08/2010 04:21  Willau said:  really legendary team work tonight from everyone. Well done Guild!
  • 08/08/2010 05:44  Thunderfoot said:  Special guild meet this week, will be in the boat showroom in the harbour. We're going shopping, Legends style!
  • 09/08/2010 02:15  Imot said:  I'm really sry guys i wont be able to participate, my computer went dead. It was storm in friday, well comp do not wish to cooperate. Have get him to repair service. ::((. Darn
  • 09/08/2010 04:19  Willau said:  Nice try at crucible tonight. Think we learned lots. Esp that caster gnolls are really nasty creatures. Sorry guys if you felt Alye was not up to healing you.
  • 11/08/2010 14:32  Vorflynn said:  No FG Tonight. Please see the post.
  • 11/08/2010 16:11  tdk dvdrw said:  sorry dalk/sabr lost internet...couldnt get back up til now
  • 11/08/2010 18:24  Dalkarn said:  heh heh no worries mate
  • 11/08/2010 22:26  Thunderfoot said:  unaccnounced quest exit fee, 100GP, payable to my self or dalk
  • 17/08/2010 04:40  tdk dvdrw said:  sorry ven/fel ..pc palying up cant maintain DDO game ..will stay off line till i fix it
  • 17/08/2010 04:49  Thunderfoot said:  no probs, we got the taps sorted
  • 18/08/2010 21:02  Vorflynn said:  FG2 update is required
  • 21/08/2010 18:19  Tymaara said:  Gamescom was a blast- Got to meet Satine on a totally chance encounter at the LotRO booth...have pics, can prove :p
  • 22/08/2010 19:10  Laz said:  Excellent. Glad you had fun :)
  • 23/08/2010 01:09  bainwen said:  Pics or it didnt happen!
  • 23/08/2010 20:37  Fleugellammo said:  You know Satine? Do you even play LOTRO? Can't remember seeing you there
  • 23/08/2010 23:55  Dalkarn said:  I hope ya smacked her rite in the kisser fer the total fubar she n her cronies ave made of the last year of ddo :)
  • 24/08/2010 03:42  Cyph said:  I think Tym knows Satine very well actually (c:
  • 24/08/2010 17:30  Laz said:  Satine was the main point of contact for the first year of DDO until she moved to LOTRO. She was at the festival night we pulled off :)
  • 25/08/2010 23:48  Lyste Aurdek said:  *pokes her head in* FG tonite?
  • 26/08/2010 00:21  Willau said:  Not looking good.. will check agian in 30 mins
  • 28/08/2010 05:13  Thunderfoot said:  weekly guild membership, 100GP payable to myself or dalkarn!
  • 28/08/2010 17:12  Willau said:  Thats a bit steep but since you are in charge now good luck in collecting it.
  • 28/08/2010 21:10  Thunderfoot said:  #mutters# aint as much fun when you bigjobs aint trying ta stop me #sulks#
  • 29/08/2010 01:30  Dalkarn said:  don't give up cuz! she's tryin a new tactic on us...backwards sychocolology of sumfink like dat
  • 29/08/2010 02:41  Willau said:  *Watches with interest*
  • 30/08/2010 01:05  Thunderfoot said:  dalk! where tha bleedin 'ell is yah?
  • 30/08/2010 04:18  Thunderfoot said:  shenanigans rule forevah!
  • 30/08/2010 12:27  Willau said:  *goes to see Menaron for another couple of those spells*
  • 31/08/2010 00:06  Gentleness said:  Hello, is it just me that cannot access Ebberon or all of us?
  • 31/08/2010 00:23  Willau said:  All of us. Site off line for some maintainance
  • 31/08/2010 20:27  Thunderfoot said:  50% off new DDO character slots for today, get them while their slotty!
  • 31/08/2010 20:28  Thunderfoot said:  #waits to hear dalk cursing#
  • 01/09/2010 23:54  Vorflynn said:  FG server is up; an update is needed
  • 02/09/2010 00:52  Agravane said:  Howdy all... just checkin in here to your site and I am a New member/Applicant Hopeing to see some of you in game soon.
  • 02/09/2010 14:20  Laz said:  Welcome Agravane
  • 02/09/2010 21:03  Agravane said:  Thank yuo For My Welcome Laz and Some Other Legends have Provided a Meet and Greet for me. Its Good to see! A special thank you to Thunderfoot for Puting up with my many endless questions..! thanks
  • 02/09/2010 21:03  Agravane said:  Thank yuo For My Welcome Laz and Some Other Legends have Provided a Meet and Greet for me. Its Good to see! A special thank you to Thunderfoot for Puting up with my many endless questions..! thanks
  • 04/09/2010 16:54  Agravane said:  Looking for any Legends who are around to give me a yell in DDO .. I Hope to See some of you this Weekend.
  • 05/09/2010 02:07  Caelara said:  welcome Agravane!!
  • 06/09/2010 16:52  tdk dvdrw said:  happy birthday
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Quote Sethrak Replybullet Topic: Vyridus' Equipment
    Posted: 29/Dec/2009 at 11:49
OOC :

Vyridus is playing a Warchanter bard.   Warchanter gives +2 Intimidate (unlikely to be used by Vyridus), +1 attack, +2 damage and DR 5/-

Vyridus also has a range of buffs and some crowd control.

Vyridus was asking for advice on equipment.   Here's my first thoughts, but I've never played a bard so others will have better ideas, for sure.

The main contentious bit is Armour Class since there are two schools of thought on a high AC at higher level.   One is you need really high AC to be worthwhile.   One is that highish AC is worthwhile.   It's true that to run Hound runs on Elite, Shroud, Amrath etc you need an AC of over 70 to be fairly safely fighting, with intimitanks shooting for an AC of 80.   Anything less and you're hit too much, so if you've an AC of 50 or an AC of 10, they only miss you on a 1 anyway, so why waste items on AC if it does absolutely nothing for you then?   Which is true.   The flipside is how often are you doing Elite runs or end game content when you need such a high AC?   If doing quests where AC 70 isn't needed, an AC of 50 does help in end game Normal content so is it worth striving for a helpful, rather than rock solid, AC?   My personal preference is for some AC, in a melee character, so a Warchanter could sensible have some kit to ramp up AC.   Some blows will get through but hey, bards get displacement at 8th level so 50% of blows can miss anyway.   Melee defence becomes even more viable.

This is kit that has a little high end raid loot, but isn't the "best" there could be, with only 1 greensteel clothing since he might not be running Shroud enough craft/purifying taint more items, or might not want to grind for it.

Goggles :
Head : Minos Legens (+20 hp, heavy fortification) then a greensteel helm (+45 hp, +5 protection, heavy fortification, 2 stoneskin clickies)
Necklace : Torin's choker (superior potency VI, wizardry VI, warchanter),
Trinklet : Bloodstone (+6 seeker)
Cloak : Resistance or Perform (eg the Bard's Cloak)
Belt :
Belt of the Seven Ideals for potency/spell penetration from 13th level up, if as a bard you have UMD 24 to beat the Lawful
Gloves : +6 strength
Boots : Featherfall of Springing
Ring : Warchanter's Band (charisma +6, exceptional strength +1, warchanter, incredible potential), until then just a +charisma ring
Ring : Perform or Resistance
Bracers : Chaos Guard (+2 dodge AC)
Armour : +5 mithral breastplate of whatever until high end
Weapon :
Shield : +5 mithral large shield of whatever

Warchanter set bonus - when both items are equipped you will gain an additional bard songs after resting, Maximize Spell costs 4 Spell Points less, and Extend Spell will cost 1 Spell Point less.

+AC, +5 resistance, +5 protection, spell penetration VII, wizardy VI, +6 charisma, +7 strength, featherfall all the time (so no swapping out), +45 hp, heavy fortification.

What do folk who know bards think could be improved upon?
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Quote Vyridus Replybullet Posted: 30/Dec/2009 at 03:53
Wow Sethrak, I really appreciate the insight and the help, and it helps me to see what to aim for, as well as what to think of, since I do not have any idea of hi end game content. II really appreciate the information.
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Quote DeltaBravo Replybullet Posted: 30/Dec/2009 at 14:10
Ok.. gonna have a look on this .. and will give some things to look on :) .
When i build my toons. i never aim for the things in between best or ok.. I only aim for the very best.. I will never settle for an item. that i know i will get better. This does not mean however i will not be happy with an item. that is not really what i want.. but i will still aim for the better item . Like. why have a +4 stat item when you can have a +6. This might be a bit more perfect list that also mean. harder to get.. But if you have a aim. for some things that will not fit with the perfect things. it gets hard to swap out items later on..

This list looks good. however. nice of you sethrak. And please do not see the new list i make like a competions for your list sethrak. It is just a update to give Vyr the best items posible . :)
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Quote DeltaBravo Replybullet Posted: 30/Dec/2009 at 16:40
Head : Gs with same as sethrak said

Trinket : head of good fortune / when melee you can swap for a bloodstone. (add the save bonus from ritual +1save)

Googles : tharnes wrath

necklace : Torin's choker ( or shionans pendant)

claok : bards claok

belt : belt of the defender of siberys

Gloves : Spectral gloves / swap with Seven fingerd glves when you need more UMD

Boots : Gyroscopic boots of strideing / Swap with firestorm greaves when needed.

Ring 1 : Draconic ring ( Craft +2 Str on it )

Ring 2 : +6 INT ring / swap Between FF/UWA/ or other nice clikes like devine might. When needed

Armor : DT leather armor with +3dodge +5resistence +SR 22 ( add a ritual AC bonus here +1 AC )

Main hand : Khopesh GS min II(can give +4 insight AC for a lil less DPS also )

Off hand : Khopesh GS Pos/pos/pos(or GS min II)

This is the Allmost the perfect gear list for you toon Vyr.



next list show you what you will get When you take on the gear.. not all is counted for Like extra saves and ac from more dex , so the real break down will be better. then this list, but it gives you a hint.


+8 to all saves ( 3 from Trinket 5 from DT armor)
+8 str ( from ring )
+5 dex ( 5 from gloves )
+7 con ( 6 from belt 1 from ring )
+6 int ( from Ring )
+6 cha ( from Bards cloak )
+75 Hp ( 30 from belt 45 from helmet )
heavy fort ( helmet )
Suprior potency VI ( from neckie All Spells up to lvl 6 does 50% more dmg)
+200 Sp from bracers
Fire shiled cold (from bracers 5%chance to go off when you get hit)
Spell resist +22
Ghost touch weapons all the time ( from gloves )
+2 to hit ( from gloves )
2 times greater command ( from cloak )
+15 perfom ( from cloak )
Spell penetration VIII
Sneak attack bonus +5 ( from goggles )
true seeing ( from goggles )
+15 spot ( from goggles )
+15 search ( from goggles )
+30% run speed ( boots )
+10 balance ( boots )
Total +AC +17 and max dex bonus +7 ( remeber i did not count natrual AC or the DEX bonus to AC )
( +11 Diable device And +5 Umd when you use seven figred gloves )
Also other bonuses when you use some of the other stuff like the bloodstone +6 seeker or firestorm greaves for better fire protect.

I used alot of time on this 1. And i can see some small things that can be swapped out.. with others. But this is the best over all i can see.

BUt it is a DARN lot of grinding ..!!

So enyoj :) hope it hwlps you out.





    
    
    

Edited by DeltaBravo - 30/Dec/2009 at 17:29
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Quote Vyridus Replybullet Posted: 30/Dec/2009 at 23:52
Wow guys, two great lists, and a lot of time, for a nub like me, I do appreciate it, and I will do my best to aim for those items. And a greta list for a possible full bard toon, when and after i get more used to the game and experience under my belt.
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Quote Sethrak Replybullet Posted: 03/Jan/2010 at 14:50
Actually, I'd agree with DelatBravo's list as the best gear to aim for, for you.

I also don't like to bind or settle for less than ideal, but feel it's fair to offer up a realistic, achievable, decent list that you can aim for, and get, whilst then crafting/raiding for your prefect set.

If I was playing your warchanter, over the longer term I'd certainly go for the kit DB's suggested
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Quote DeltaBravo Replybullet Posted: 04/Jan/2010 at 01:10
hehe may take some time to get it :D
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